DANIEL’S 70 WEEKS – FUTURE OR FULFILLED?

A friend sent me an e-mail link the other night.  The subject was end times.  That’s what got me going on this subject again.  My friend still believes the things I used to believe.  Certain teachings, though false, are difficult to challenge because they are held so dearly.  I thought this article was pretty clear, and a good witness to the truth.

Daniel’s 70 Weeks Future or Fulfilled?

by Ralph Woodrow

Quoted from the book “Great Prophecies of the Bible” by Ralph Woodrow

Excerpt:

. . . those who say that the confirming of the covenant and causing sacrifices to cease in the midst of the 70th week refers to a future Anti-Christ, completely destroy this beautiful fulfillment and are at a complete loss to show where in the Old Testament the time of our Lord’s death was predicted.

Read entire article here …

http://www.theologue.org/Dan70Weeks-RWoodrow.html

About Cathy

I am a born again Christian. I was saved in 1988 at the age of 38. My mother came to the Lord in her old age, in her 80's. Her name was Giannina which means "God is gracious."
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22 Responses to DANIEL’S 70 WEEKS – FUTURE OR FULFILLED?

  1. Cathy says:

    Just a few thoughts …

    The Lord told us that His coming will be as the days of Noah and Lot … sudden and unexpected for an unbelieving world.

    Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

    Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

    Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

    Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

    Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

    The Scripture also tells us …

    1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

    1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    1 Thessalonians 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

    1 Thessalonians 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

    1 Thessalonians 5:6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

    1 Thessalonians 5:7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

    1 Thessalonians 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

    1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

    1 Thessalonians 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

    1 Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

  2. MH says:

    Interesting reading. It makes a lot of sense. Where does this leave the idea of the end-times? Are we now just waiting for tribulation to build until Christ’s return with no specific sign needed?

  3. Ed says:

    You are welcome. If I may, I would like to add something to my prior comment that I noticed from these verses that are from another of your postings. These verses are just one example of how the scriptures become plain, (as if a veil over one’s eyes is lifted), when the delusion that men have to add to God’s finished work is cast aside.

    Matthew 11:13 for all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

    Luke 16:15, 16 and he said unto them, you are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knows your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presses into it.

    How clear can it be that the prophets, including Daniel prophesied of a time that would come until John? Not a gap to come later, but until John. John himself was a sign of the coming of the Son of God who would fulfill all of the Law and the Prophets.

    With the baptism of the Lord Jesus, Our Lord proclaimed that His Kingdom was come. He interrupted and brought an end to the Levitical priesthood. John was a Levite, and he was the greatest, the culmination, of that Levitical priesthood. Jesus is our Great High Priest. Even in Hebrews, the people were reminded of the end of the Levitical priesthood, which was then fading away. The author of Hebrews knew that the Words of the Lord Jesus would come to pass with the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem. Surely part of the encouragement of the saints written in Hebrews was to give assurance that the end of the temple and the priesthood should not be a cause the saints to fear. Even the city of Jerusalem was to be destroyed. The saints were encouraged that they had already come to the New Jerusalem, a city not made with human hands.

    Oh how I could continue from verse to verse in the proclaiming that Jesus of Nazareth is God come in the flesh. The Stone that the builder’s rejected has become the Chief Cornerstone Stone. He Himself taught on the Emmaus road how the written scriptures up to that time all spoke of Him. Yes He is coming again, but it is He who was born a King in Bethlehem, and not another Jesus or another Christ of men’s own vain imaginations.

  4. Cathy says:

    A hearty Amen to your comment Ed! We have come to the same conclusions from reading the Scriptures and seeking the Lord’s truth on this topic. So many churches, including the one we first went to when we were saved, teach dispensational doctrine in one form or another. Thank you for taking the time to comment and for the encouragement.

    Blessings,

  5. Ed says:

    Thank you for posting this material and the comments. This is one of the most peace providing sites I have ever come across. In a time recently of experiencing great pressure, call it tribulation, I was seeking direction. To my surprise, and delight, I understood from the extensive, lengthy reading of all the scriptures that it came together for me that the Darby/Scofield twisting of words [that simply do not say what they say] were wrong.

    There is no evidence of a “gap” in the seventy years. I had already realized from Stephen’s speech that the trust in a temple built by man was resisting the Holy Spirit. Therefore, I do not believe that the fulfillment of God’s works are contingent on the building of a so-called third temple. The flow of the 70 7′s has occurred in an unbroken manner. That brings all the attention to what Jesus the Son of God fulfilled in His ministry, crucification and becoming our Great High Priest. His kingdom now is. The worst part of the dispensationalist is the teaching that men have to do a work to “usher in the kingdom of heaven-the return of Jesus-to then establish his kingdom”. Jesus now is the King, our High Priest. As it says in Revelation, written 2000 years ago, He took His power and began to reign, then, not after some latter time.

    Is this very deception perhaps part of the great delusion that came so that men, who love unrighteousness, believe a lie. It is the spirit of anti-christ that denies that Jesus has come in the flesh, just how and just when Daniel prophesied.

  6. Marcus says:

    It’s been about five years since the Lord showed me through the Scriptures that the theory of a pre-trib rapture is false and unbiblical. I now hold to what I refer to as a co-2nd advent resurrection. Basically this would be the same as post-tribulationism rapture belief, but I don’t like to use the word rapture. And this is not because the word “rapture” is not found in the Bible, but because that word has become synonymous with some secret “ethereal” escape plan for Christians that is apart from the second coming of Christ!

    Having believed in a pre-trib rapture for almost 30 years, it wasn’t until last week that I shook off some of the vestiges of Darbyism, Scofieldism, Riberaism and allowed God to show to me that the 70 weeks of Daniel have already been fulfilled completely and terminated at the stoning of Stephen. This false diabolical doctrine had my mind so clouded that even though I had ceased to believe in a pre-trib rapture, I still was seeing things from a “muddled” mind of a futurism that was made up to draw away attention of the Catholic Church being the Antichrist.

    I was glad to find this forum and find like-minded Christians!

    • Cathy says:

      The Lord has shown my husband and I the similar things. We pray often that the Lord will open the eyes of believers to the great deceptions they have and are embracing wrongfully as truth. I know it takes time to unravel all the error we have ingested. Praise the Lord for His faithfulness to lead us into all truth!

      Also, it is distressing to see the heretical Scofield commentary listed along side the mainstream commentaries, and to know that the Scofield Bible is so widely used among Christians. What has happened is that the false teaching in the commentary notes has replaced the Word of God and become “Gospel” truth to many. We live in very apostate times.

  7. Benjamin says:

    The problem with the dispensationalist “doctrine” is that it is absolutely based on eisegesis, reading into chosen fragments of Scripture a bias of what Darby, Scofield and Chafer wanted to find in Scripture, rather than what Scipture truly says within ther context of the whole of Scripture and so the gist and essence of the gospel is clouded by jumping to conclusions about eschatological matters. There is no biblical foundation for what they are saying so they have to err hermeneutically and exegetically to “prove a point” that is not clearly found anywhere in the Bible’s message. It is surprising that so many “Christians” follow blindly as they were taught in their churches as children without ever exploring the truth and discovering the simplicity of truth in Christ.

  8. Cathy says:

    Yes, there is much confusion. Thank God for His Spirit who leads those, whose hearts are open, into all truth.

  9. Benjamin says:

    I am so pleased to see that there is an awakening to these lies that have especially been rife in the USA for decades. I have done a Th.D on the subject of the Church as God’s people with special reference to the Ephesian letter. I had to wrestle with all the confusion that now seems to be “mainstream” doctrine. I am so pleased to see that you agree with my thoughts around the misinterpretation of Daniel’s “weeks”.

  10. Cathy says:

    Thank you for your comment.

    Yes, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ . . .

    In vs 27, in the midst of the week he does something that ’causes’ the sacrifice and oblation to cease. That I believe would be His crucifixion . . .

  11. Tony says:

    Just a few points. Otherwise, I agree with PJ Miller and also her opinion of dispensationalim. The very scary part is that Christians with a heart for God are taught and led to attend ‘bible college’ which from their historical beginnings we learn were set up to primarily dispense this doctrine. They began as a continuation of the Niagrara Prophecy Conferences which ended because of the disagreements about these doctrines. There are many benefits that can be obtained by intense study in God’s word, but to apply a ‘degree’ to such things that are to be applied to LIFE seems to be a antithesis. Very great are the risks of false doctrines being interjected into the study. Furthermore, it has been shown that there could be a very strong direct connection between the Scofield Bible and the zionists/judahites themselves through Scofields associations and supporters.

    Now about Dan 9. In Jhn 4:26 we read that Jesus acknowledge his being the Messiah. The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am [he]. Also when John the Baptist sent some of his disciples to Jesus asking him to confirm of him being ‘the one’, he testified that he was according to his works.

    Thus, Jesus was already the Messiah during his teaching time and the final 7 yrs of the 490 yrs would have had begun. The annointing would have been at his baptism, when Jesus came out of the wilderness to begin his public ministry. During Johns baptism the voice of God was heard and directly afterwards Jesus quoted Ps 61.

    Many feel that the crucifiction ‘ended’ the final week, but I believe the Baptism began the final week. Using Philip Mauro’s and Antseys’s chronologys, one can arrive at such dates as they ascert that Ptolemy was off by about 80 yrs. Google Philip Mauro chronology for more info.

    I believe that vs 26 and 27 are to be read in Parallel and the beginnings of both refer back to vss 24 and especially the Messiah of vs 25. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=67&letter=P

    Thus, the Messiah is both cut off sometime after the 69th week (but not for himself) and confirms the everlasting covenant His teaching, his crucifiction, resurrection and the giving of the Holy Spirit. In Jhn 6:45 Jesus confirmed that His teaching and His person was the New Covenant, again stating that He Himself was God in flesh.

    Jhn 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

    All this was primarily in Jeruslalem, the Holy city (vs 24) for a few years up until possibly the stoning of Stephen signified the end of the spread of the Gospel in that city and spreading it into Judea. This time would have also been the confirmation of the Holy Spirit as also being the teacher of the New Covenant. It may be very significant that the apostle to spread the gospel to the nations was there hearing the Gospel message at the very stoning of Stephen and who’s conversion was shortly afterwards.

    In vs 27, in the midst of the week he does something that ’causes’ the sacrifice and oblation to cease. That I believe would be hHs crucifixion although there are other angles of reading it especially in the context of the desolation when the sacrifices actually ceased.

    In Numbers 35:33 we read that the blood of animals cannot cleanse the land from sin of murder but only the blood of those who committed the murder. This is in the context of the laws and temple service of the old covenant in which the animals were offered for atonement sacrifice.

    So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye [are]: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.

    Thus, the animals never did offer atonement for sin against God or against fellow man. Only a Just shedding blood for the unjust would both both satisfy the law of sin and death and set the guilty free eternally.

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  13. Cathy says:

    Yes we have been pondering the same, and we also search the scriptures for confirmation.

    I’ll take a look at the link you sent. Thanks.

  14. Georges says:

    I have been pondering the same (Daniel 9:24-27)
    Found this site’s exegesis very helpful, but will continue to search scriptures for confirmation.

  15. Cathy says:

    So true. Thank you for your comment.

  16. Stephen says:

    I must admit that I have wondered when people would be catching on to the lie about all the “supposed events” that are to occur before the “end times”. One thing I have found to be interesting is the proclamation that we will one day have to profess Christ or die yet people (other than modernized nations) have to do that daily. Nations like China, Sudan, and others have been posing that question for decades…No one has been “ruptured” yet and it has been going on longer than 7-years. I try to keep my ministry simple…If it will not preach in every part of the world, I do not preach it! Jesus, holiness, and repentance will preach anywhere and anytime…The whole rebuilding the temple, tribulation time, and secret rapture severely limits and hampers what God really wants humanity to experience…His Son! Why does it hamper? Because their message is totally dependent on unnatural fear and manipulated emotion…

    Stephen

  17. Cathy says:

    PJ, what you write is excellent, and true. I may make a separate post out of your comment. False teachings are repeated over and over again. We must also repeat truth in our efforts to contend for the faith.

    Have a great day!

  18. PJ Miller says:

    I read something on a board i lurk on tonight Cathy…in the verse you quoted, notice the last phrase:

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    “…and to anoint the most Holy”

    Dispensationalists see this as this future built temple which will be anointed..the “Holy place” or Holy of Holies”

    But doesn’t it stand to reason that this is referring to Jesus?

    Messiah means the anointed one. And we find Him being called in the NT “Holy”. We also find that He was anointed:

    Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

    Acts 3:14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

    Acts 4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together,

    Acts 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

    1 Jn 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

    Lk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

    Acts 4:30 …whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together

    Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

    Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    Jesus was anointed High Priest and King by God after the order of Melchisedec before He began His earthly ministry:

    Ps 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

    (notice that hebrews 1:9 is quoting psalm 45:7!)

    Is 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; (and Jesus spoke this word for word in luke 4:18!)

    (quoted from the person on the board tonight…)

    Isn’t it amazing that in the dispensationalist view that Jesus can’t have anything to do with the Jews until His Second Coming and that all of the OT prophecies are of His Second Coming, or just before it during the GT, when He supposedly comes just to restore their kingdom to them!

    Dispensationalist scholars will not allow the many prophecies of the OT concerning the 1st Coming of Christ if they speak in anyway of Israel within the same prophecy. In other words, they will not allow the 1st Coming of Christ to be connected with the Jews.

    Without Daniel 9:24-27 dispensationalism would fall apart. It did for me in 1999 when I finally read through Chapter 9 and looked for the Jews restored millennial kingdom with Jesus sitting on His throne inside the most holy place in the rebuilt stone temple in v. 24.

    I couldn’t find a gap between the 69th and 70th weeks. I couldn’t find where God’s prophecy clock stopped for the Jews anywhere in Daniel 9:24-27.

    No antichrist is mentioned. No 7 yr. GT is mentioned in v. 27 but this is dispensationalist foundation for a 7 yr. GT just before the 2nd Coming of Christ. Nor do we find in v. 27 of Daniel 9 or in Daniel 11 the antichrist signing a 7 yr. peace treaty with Israel and then breaking the peace treaty in the midst of the 7 years and stopping their sacrificing at the temple. Nor do we see the antichrist going into the holy of holies inside of the temple and proclaim himself to be their God.

    Dispensationalist’s scholars accept the demonic, antichrist Talmud interpretation of the OT which does away with Jesus and His First Coming over what the OT actually says and how the NT interprets the OT.

    Millions of Christians are so deceived into believing what some dispensationalist scholar writes, teaches and preaches. It is time that all true Christians everywhere wake up and realize that God has given us His written word and His Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth.

  19. Cathy says:

    This is a little long pj :-) . . .

    I don’t have clarity about certain future prophecies that I hear taught, (the Anti-Christ, the mark of the beast, even the tribulation.) I’m still attempting to untangle what is true, false, fulfilled, unfulfilled. But I think the following verse would indicate that the seventy weeks were completed over 2000 years ago. I believe Dispensationalism is the root of the popular teaching that tells us Daniel’s 70 weeks have not been completely fulfilled.

    Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    I was reading Matthew Henry yesterday . Here’s a portion of what he says:

    “Concerning the termination of them (the 70 weeks); and here likewise interpreters are not agreed. Some make them to end at the death of Christ, and think the express words of this famous prophecy will warrant us to conclude that from this very hour when Gabriel spoke to Daniel, at the time of the evening oblation, to the hour when Christ died, which was towards evening too, it was exactly 490 years; and I am willing enough to be of that opinion.

    But others think, because it is said that in the midst of the weeks (that is, the last of the seventy weeks) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, they end three years and a half after the death of Christ, when, the Jews having rejected the gospel, the apostles turned to the Gentiles. But those who make them to end precisely at the death of Christ read it thus,

    “He shall make strong the testament to the many; the last seven, or the last week, yea, half that seven, or half that week (namely, the latter half, the three years and a half which Christ spent in his public ministry), shall bring to an end sacrifice and oblation.”

    Others make these 490 years to end with the destruction of Jerusalem, about thirty seven years after the death of Christ, because these seventy weeks are said to be determined upon the people of the Jews and the holy city; and much is said here concerning the destruction of the city and the sanctuary.

    . . . for, reckon these seventy weeks from which of the commandments to build Jerusalem we please, it is certain that they have expired above 1500 years ago; (Note: If he were writing today he would naturally say ‘above 2000 years ago.)”

    Blessings,

  20. PJ Miller says:

    Hi Cathy…

    I have that book, Great Prophecies of the Bible by Ralph Woodrow.

    An elderly gentleman i met on a Christian board some years ago, sent it to me from Canada. It was one of the most interesting little books i’ve read…you should see my copy–it has highlights and notations made by myself all through it. lol

    At the time i received it, i had already been questioning the rebuilt temple theory, and the fact that no where in scripture did i see it fore-told. Also the ‘he’ in Daniel 9:27-

    “And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

    It had always appeared to me that the ‘he’ was Christ, who was indeed ‘cut off’ in the midst of the ‘week’ [after 3 1/2 years]…

    I’m still not sure…

    All i do know is the ’7 year gap’ theory is something which i just don’t see in the scriptures.

    “IF” and i say ‘if’ because im not sure, there is a time yet to be fulfilled, then to me if the ‘he’ is Christ, then there only remains 3 1/2 years. [does that make sense?]

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